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Amazon Admits Daily-Deal Coupons Were a $169-Million Mistake

It turns out that the most amazing discount that LivingSocial would offer was on itself: “Amazon invested $175 million in LivingSocial in December 2010, when online coupon companies were a hot commodity,” reports TechFlash. Now, Amazon has written down $169 million of that investment against its third quarter. That’s 97 percent off! Beat that, Groupon.

Amazon’s investment amounted to about a 30 percent stake in the daily-deal company, which is said to have steered clear of an IPO, though if you grant IPOs conscious agency, you can imagine them steering clear of LivingSocial. Chief Financial Officer John Bax told the Wall Street Journal in June that, “This is a healthy business and a healthy industry. The economics are good.” Amazon would seem to differ.

Groupon stock [GRPN] has soared almost one percent on the Amazon’s valuation of its competitor, to $4.46.

Amazon’s earnings would still have disappointed analysts, who had thought the online retailer would lose only 7 cents a share; excluding the LivingSocial write-down, Amazon lost 23 cents a share (as opposed to 60 cents a share with the LivingSocial discount). The company reported an operating loss of $28 million for Q3. (See their press release here.)

Net sales increased 27 percent over third quarter 2011, and Amazon forecasts net sales growth of 16 to 31 percent in the fourth quarter of 2012, compared with fourth quarter 2011.

Will AmazonLocal’s 800-Pound Gorilla Drive Seattle Shoppers Bananas?

“Local online bookseller” Amazon rolled out their new local deals service, AmazonLocal, in Seattle today, pitching shoppers ” average savings of 60 percent or more off everything from restaurants to spas and events.”

The inaugural deal? 50 percent off food and drinks and games at the Garage on Capitol Hill. (668 purchased as of 12:25 p.m.) At first, says Amazon, shopper will find deals from LivingSocial, but soon AmazonLocal will have their own offers. You can also follow AmazonLocal deals on Twitter and Facebook.

However, Mary Osako, Amazon.com spokesperson, emphasizes that it’s not just the price-point: “It’s about opening up Seattle, our hometown, for exploration. From coffee shops to the arts scene, there are so many innovative businesses and locally-developed services to try out right in our own backyard.”

That philosophy of course is a line straight from DealPop, the local online couponer that WhitePages sold recently to Seattle’s Tippr (an acquisition that would indicate Tippr knew they had to get big fast). Here’s Exhibit A, from our earlier profile:

Yaeger said she likes DealPop because “they’re creating destinations,” using the discount not simply to lure bargain-hunters but to entice people to learn about the businesses in their area.

Right now, AmazonLocal is local to Seattle and Boise, ID, but the interested can sign up to be alerted when AmazonLocal comes to their town. How successful Amazon will be with this come-from-behind entry is up in the air. Is there anyone in Seattle who hasn’t bought something from Amazon at this point? (Employees of local bookstores aside.) Clearly Amazon has an enviable pool of customers; but as Groupon’s ceaseless staffing-up (and Amazon’s riding in on LivingSocial coattails) indicates, it takes a lot of salespeople to drum up daily-deal business.